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    Togher - Wooden trackways

    The best examples of wooden trackways from Iron Age are in the south Baltic, in the area of Lower Saxony inhabited by Chauci, and in east Ireland, in the area inhabited by Cauci. The way these Iron Age wooden corduroy roads were constructed is so similar and superior to the rest of the roads found, that archaeologists have long “suspected” that they could have only been built by the same people. But because history says that there has been no migration from south Baltic (Elbe estuary, and Lowlands, Jutland region) to Ireland during early Iron Age, the possibility that they might have been built by the same people was discarded.

    In Irish wooden trackways are called Togher and Tochar.Official meaning of the words Togher, Tochar in Irish is causeway, wooden trackway. But there is a village in the Wicklow mountains which is in English called Roundwood. Its Irish name is Tochar. Roundwood was the material from which wooden trackways called Togher and Tochar were made. Did people in Wicklow preserve the original meaning of the word Tochar: Roundwood?

    In Serbian there is a word "tokariti" which means to spin. It also means working the material by spinning it and applying force from the side, which produces round, disc like objects, from roundwood, like disk cart wheels. In Serbian, word "tokar" means turner. In Serbian, Turkish and Bulgarian, we also have a word "toka" which means disc like metal ornament worn on the chest like clasps, fibula, button.

    Is Irish word Tochar, Togher related to Serbian word Toka, Tokar, Tokariti? And are these words relics from some old Central European language from the time of the first wheel, wheeled carts and wooden trackway builders?

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    http://oldeuropeanculture.blogspot.i...trackways.html

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    Sr. Member Zeus10's Avatar
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    Re: Togher - Wooden trackways

    Your reasoning :
    In Serbian there is a word "tokariti" which means to spin
    and in Irish name is Tochar= Roundwood
    bringing you to the conclusion that Celtic and Serbian are language related, and as a result making Serbians and Celtics related, is very unconclusive and unprofessional.
    This is the same like because in Albanian the word Toka means Earth, and the Earth is round, Albanian and Irish are language related, and obeying the assumption that Irish is a direct descendendant, of Celtic language, making Albanians originated by Celtic people. But I think this is a very wrong approach. Its a diletantism that because of very few language similarities betwen Irish and Serbian, to try till exhaust, to prove that Serbian have an ethnic Celtic origin.

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    Re: Togher - Wooden trackways

    Zeus, you are fighting with yourself.

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    Re: Togher - Wooden trackways

    Quote Originally Posted by dublin View Post
    And are these words relics from some old Central European language from the time of the first wheel, wheeled carts and wooden trackway builders?
    I doubt it. The Southern Slavonic race were invaders in the Balkans by the end of the 5th century CE and the Celtics were long gone by then.

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    Re: Togher - Wooden trackways

    Quote Originally Posted by dublin View Post
    [COLOR=#404040][FONT=Roboto]The best examples of wooden trackways from Iron Age are in the south Baltic, in the area of Lower Saxony inhabited by Chauci, and in east Ireland, in the area inhabited by Cauci. The way these Iron Age wooden corduroy roads were constructed is so similar and superior to the rest of the roads found, that archaeologists have long “suspected” that they could have only been built by the same people.
    Some references for this statement please.

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    Progressing Member dublin's Avatar
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    Re: Togher - Wooden trackways

    ghostcrusader, I saw a documentary on the Irish television about the Corlea Trackway in which an archaeology professor (whose name I unfortunately can't remember) made that statement. It prompted me to investigate the whole area of wooden trackways...I will try to dig it out. You will not find this in any published papers. It is too controversial from the Irish point of view as no germanic people should have lived in Ireland before the Vikings...

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